What's The Scuttlebutt?

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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby Narddog » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:53 pm

From Citius Mag:

Major takeaways from today’s report include the following:
This is a USADA report that confirms much of the Sunday Times’ reporting of the past two years.
Apparently Lance Armstrong and Salazar conversed about the newest grey-area doping techniques. Salazar emailed Armstrong “Lance call me asap! We have tested it and it’s amazing.”
Six unnamed American athletes and Mo Farah all received intravenous infusions that “almost certainly” broke anti-doping rules.
The phrase “unlawful” was used to describe collusion between NOP team doctor, Jeffrey Brown, and Salazar and to use medication and procedures for performance enhancement.
Salazar continues to contend that the use of L-carnitine has always fully complied with the WADA code and the drug was “exactly the way Usada directed.”
Farah received L-carnitine injections including one after his marathon debut in London 2014. He has told reporters that he took an L-carnitine drink but has never mentioned injections. British doctors were alarmed by his recommended Vitamin D usage by Salazar.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby kev83 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:11 pm

f**cy b**rs are a group of conniving lying forging scumbags. i wouldn't presume anything that comes from them to be genuine. they have no role to play in the fight against doping
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby jduncan » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:31 am

you can read the article for free if you just register a throwaway email.

Its nothing new or exciting. I am waiting to see what USADA actually releases. The information that L-carnitine is this magic substance is supported by this pseudoscience study with Magness and one study in mice. I am pretty dubious of the effects although I do believe the intent to game the system is certainly wrong. However, we already knew AlSal was willing to push into grey areas. The only serious allegation to me is the one about Brown, simply because of the wider spread implications of those statements, given that Brown has worked with scores of world class athletes. The involvement of fancy bears in this leak is troubling to say the least. I am somewhat skeptical that this is a fake report drummed up to provide continued distraction against the Russian's own issues. Remember - WADA just issued a new report against them just a day ago and and they have been cleared to enter just one athlete, a US-based one, at Euros this weekend and it seems they may get three at indoor WCs. Seems like this could be retaliatory. Why against the US/UK and NOP/Mo? i am not sure.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby kev83 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:02 pm

Because for them it's more than just sport
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby i hate redbellies » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:02 pm

How has no once mentioned this? Cheserek collegiate record in the mile? Merber and Gregorek also into the US top 10 all time indoors?

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1 Cheserek, Edward Oregon 3:52.01 4 10
2 Merber, Kyle Hoka One One/NJNY 3:52.22 4 8
3 Gregorek, Johnny Asics/NJNY 3:53.15 4 6
4 Palmer, Ford Hoka One One/NJNY 3:54.92 4 5
5 Huling, Dan Nike Btc 3:57.99 4 4
6 Dee, Liam Iona 3:58.19 4 3
7 Oakley, Julian Unattached 3:58.27 4 2
8 Laari, Sampson Mid. Tenn. State 3:58.75 4 1
9 Mangan, Steven NE Distance 3:59.49 4
10 Cabral, Donn Hoka One One/NJNY 3:59.86 4
11 Ross, Nick NE Distance 3:59.86 4
12 Hughes, Matt Nike Bowerma 4:00.69 4
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby Ivo Milic-Strkalj » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:30 pm

Those Columbia alumni killed it! I think Merber has a real shot at the 1500 worlds team.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby Goat Fan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:36 pm

Gregorek father and son the fastest father/son milers all time (3:51 and 3:53i)
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby DCBarks » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:53 am

No Lamere at DIII indoors?

Event 12 Men 3000 M (15)
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Name Year School Seed
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1 Peter Hale SR Williams 8:15.19D

Event 14 Men 5000 M (15)
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Name Year School Seed
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1 Tim Nichols SR Tufts 14:19.45D


Anyone know what happened?
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby RunniNirvana » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:06 am

He scratched his conference meet too, but that's all I know.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby RunniNirvana » Fri May 19, 2017 7:21 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/spor ... nhein.html

NYT got a copy of USADA's report

Why the hell is this thing not being released? Will it ever?
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby Goat Fan » Fri May 19, 2017 8:45 am

I can't seem to summon my surprised face.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby Goat Fan » Fri May 19, 2017 8:48 am

Other than passing mention, not a word in the Times article about Farrah and Rupp. No mention at all of Centro.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby RunniNirvana » Fri May 19, 2017 8:53 am

How can the article not mention that Salazar coaches Olympic medalists and then mention them? Bizarre.
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Re: What's The Scuttlebutt?

Postby Narddog » Fri May 19, 2017 10:01 am

The noose is tightening.
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